After Nicole van den Hurk’s 1995 murder case went largely ignored for more than 20 years, stepbrother Andy van den Hurk did the only thing he could think of to get the police to reexamine the matter with a DNA test: He falsely confessed to her murder. This is one hell of a ride...
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So Nicole be and in herc her murder case went cold. So her stepbrother falsely confessed to have her body exhumed for DNA testing and that's how the headlines read. That's what pulled me. And and
kind of smart in a way, I you know, if you didn't have anything to do with it and or they didn't do what they needed to do to just say, yeah, did it and they exhumed the body. It's kind of smart if you didn't do it.
So, so a little bit about her, she was born on the fourth of July in 1980. I know in our gal, Germany to a single mother. Do you know where that's at?
How do you spell that? ER, que ele? N z.
Sure. I wondered if you knew not have intended, that after, after she was born, her mom began seeing a Dutch man named add. They fell in love and the three of them moved to the Netherlands together.
Nicole was just three years old when they had moved and gotten married together there, but their love was short-lived. And in 1989. Nicole's mom and stepdad divorced and he actually won custody of her. Oh,
which really surprised a stepfather.
So Nicole spent a lot of time with ads mother, who she loved like her own grandma. And due to the nature of his career as a singer.
He was required to travel a lot. So she was with her grandma away. And Nicole's mother. She did she sadly committed suicide in April of her long struggle with mental illness, so I don't know if
That played a role in. Why he had gotten custody possibly hmmm.
Well, it's like here. It always has to be something major if the mother doesn't have custody of her children. There's a very good reason for it. So
so that was in April of 95. Will that fall? Nicole was at her grandmother's on the day. She went missing on October 6, 1995. She was only 15 years old. She took off on her bike early in the You to go to work at a nearby bakery that day and Claudia's case last week involved. A young girl on a bike and now here I am this video.
Oh, there you go, or
just don't her employer kind of five days later on October.
Well, you care to tell me who
By to come forward
recognized of our own accord.
Now, why would the
founder of backpack? Those are things that she would keep, hang onto if I run away and it all the, you know, her grandma. She just kept holding onto that idea, right? Police kind of threw that out there and the grandma was like, yeah. I hope she maybe she ran away on her own free will and she's having a good time. And of course, I think that's wishful thinking, you know, you Police say that, of course you want to think that Ryan and but our stepfather.
He believed the police were on the wrong track and it turned out he was right. The remains of her body were found by a hiker seven weeks after her disappearance, and the cause of her death was never released the police simply stated. She came to a horrific end. Now, why would you not?
Yeah, that could mean anything. I mean, like
her family. Deserves to know what happened to her. Maybe not go completely public with the details, but typically
to the family
you would you and I are able to kind of know, right, what happened. So I thought that
I wouldn't say this and I don't know what Dutch law is on, you know, releasing information to the The family, I don't know.
Well later on, it came to the surface toward the end and if this but just very interesting initially how the police handle this, you know, the fact that they're like maybe she ran away and then they didn't want to come out with the cause of death initially. So By November 20th. It was documented that police had received about 300 leads, and at her funeral on the following Tuesday, over a thousand people came to pay their respects and the loss of her life. Police took their case underground. And no information was known in Miami for drug smuggling. She said, she knew who murders and she was forced to smuggle drugs for people that knew like knew she knew. So they like held it over her
head and Miami.
Well, no, she was, she was, she was there being held there. So I don't know what happened. I'm not it doesn't say why she in March to interview her. Mhm, and they released a statement saying that their time spent with her reveal. Oh
I don't know. I mean, and it's so to me, it's just kind of like,
Whatever rat rather than arresting is question for five days, but with police telling the media but like his son, he is later released and cleared as a suspect.
Nicole's brother. Andy had moved to the UK in the Years following the murder of his sister. Okay, I'm goes on. Okay, and on March 8 2011 he would return to his home nation for further questioning. By police. The reason for the police's Newfound interest in Andy was because he used Facebook to confess openly to being involved in the murder of his sister.
Jesus now, okay, tell me real quick. If you know, if you looked into that hole. How old was Andy at the time of Nicole's disappearance, or is he older or younger?
I'm not sure what the age difference is, because I don't know, it didn't give me his date of birth, but I could find out. I'm
coming. Well, I can look real quick to while you
yeah, I just know she was 15. I do believe they were closed. They were close in age. I believe. He was very close to her. So she was born in 1980. Hmm. Okay, so he after all this went down, he moves to the UK. March 2011. He confesses on Facebook
Goes to the police.
It doesn't say, it just takes me straight to her even output. Even, you know, put in his name. It's hard that pops up. So,
so the Facebook post said, I will be arrested today for the murder of my sister have confessed will be in contact soon.
Yeah. Okay, Facebook going to jail. Jail, all right.
So you guys know this kind of remind him not to get off topic, but this kind of reminded me of Gypsy Rose Blanchard. The Facebook post and how it's still there. It's still live. You can go to it and see it. That's not too weird. Yeah, that's so weird. So, you know me immediately I searched for, you know, him and I find him and I'm looking for his original post. Right? But the first post that I see, it's actually a suicide post. So that's he actually did end up killing. Himself in that post is still there. And it was, it was very kind of shocking and sad to see that
if you want me to pull them up real quick.
Sure, but that Was August 27th. Actually of this year is when, when he posted, you know, I'm ready to say. Goodbye. The pills will do the rest and that was the end of of his run. So He did post many things on there, like, about a sister.
Oh, yeah. Okay. That was on August 27th. I'm ready to say. Goodbye. The pills will do the rest. Yeah, but then the same day writing relaxing hugs.
Yeah, but so I'm scrolling through his timeline, like the creeper. I am right, you know. I he was a huge soccer fan like a soccer
fan. All Europeans
are he loved men? Lots of men and he was, he was good-looking. He was definitely, he was gay. He loved soccer. He secretly loved to sing but not so secretly because he did do a live where he sang A George Michael song. And he's like, he's like, you guys. I need to know. I need to know. Tell me the truth. Be honest. Should I be a politician or should I be a singer? And he's like, I'm going to sing you some George Michael. And the answer, the answer is that he should have been a politician. Gansta. Yeah. Well, August 21st. He said, mixing the first songs of my album biggest compliment. It sounds complete.
So he was mixing his album.
it was something
but Anyway, going back to, you know, he posted the confession on Facebook. He walked to the police station confessed was brought for a hearing at Westminster Court London Police and you know, arrested him. But found there was no evidence other than his own confession, that linked him to a step sisters. Murder. The decision was made to extradite him to the Netherlands and just when people from the outside looking in thought the mystery was about To be solved the judge released Andy there. Just wasn't enough evidence to link him. So he was released only fighting. Hmm.
And shortly afterward. So he said he did it and then he said he didn't and he says, zoomed and get DNA off her as you do. And she's, so it's just cracks me up. But anyway. He was released on April 5th, and immediately. This is crazy. He was released and stated. His father was responsible for the death of Nicole. He said the motive was, he raped her, she became pregnant, and he killed her to conceal, his misdeeds.
And, you know, maybe he said he did it. Maybe he felt guilty because he knew about it or witness something and felt guilty about it.
Yeah, and he said he did it to get her body exhumed to get DNA off. Knowing that, maybe his dad's DNA was on there. But did they ever say she was pregnant was a confirmed?
but but Wikipedia said that she may have been to me. It's like are you or aren't you? It's very
clear. I may be pregnant
and to me if you are, that's a double murder. Yes. And so that pisses me off. You need to know or not know. But anyway, that's neither here, nor there.
So, yeah, he quickly points the finger at his father, which was kind of alarming to read and then so his go
ahead while. But you never know what goes on. He was not the father of the year, father, quickly rejected the accusations and turned upon his her.
Just interest to both the police and the media. This was
only 5000 guilders.
There were, you know, there was and four days later. The police
I want to say.
This is interesting. They'd weigh donates. His DNA the next day to rule himself out as a suspect sentenced to three years. Preventive did but he strongly rejected, the Clin, including Nicole's bull.
I know, but she was 15.
So his defense asked the court for a ride. These people are just so yeah. Seating from from that day, was found who did that, who did that? There are so many sketchy
things. Gotta be the police
eggs and the count. What are you guys doing? You know the trial was set for November 2015 and it dragged on for more. I feel like they had all of these different Specialists looking at the DNA interview that you know, she
had no new one, the state for them. To go to Miami,
you know this day to the prosecution, a
have been mixed
up. They have been that
seems to be the magic word. How is it? Any DNA evidence even left? But yeah, and one of them is other.
Giving me some kind of deja
vu. I am here to tell you that Andy. I think he did it and I think he's no George Michael.
Well, he's not know, George Michael. I heard
that song. I mean I loved him until until I read that and then I was like Andy not a fan, not a fan. Okay, so
well, but it could also be because there were younger, maybe he was a little confused about his sexuality, you know. And maybe. Things went wrong, things, went South
and Sister cover it up. As you do, as many dads do. Hmm, wasn't his daughter. It was his stepdaughter and he probably knows, who knows how that goes. So, but yeah, experts couldn't, you know, agree on the reliability of the sample. So it was announced, you know, they were going to try to reanalyze the DNA using different methods. Nothing came. That nothing became of any of that her autopsy showed. She had suffered two fractures to the jaw, other injuries to the head and fingers, and a rib injury caused by a fatal. Stab Wound. It was announced on day four of the trial to most likely be from a Swiss army knife. The case has been halted for a period of eight days, because two witnesses, contacted police. In a later interview, they stated Yost AG had made a confession to them while the three were in a mental institution together, a decade earlier that he had murdered Nicole. So Yost AG confessed to these two other psychiatric inmates that he did it. But his attorney argued that the motivation was, was that
okay? Well, I'm sorry though. How reliable are?
Yeah, I mean, it's so windy. So when his attorney argued that they were like, yeah, probably. So December. Fourth trial day, six, the next piece of information came from New Zealand, you know, the case experts concluded the evidence. So, they said, to the DNA was 2.3 million times more likely to be yo stage. He's DNA than anyone elses, but it wasn't truly his, or whatever. Couldn't completely pinpoint. It. It was just 2.3 million times more likely than anyone elses. So the defense counsel dismisses the findings as trash and states. The DNA deposits may have been the result of consensual sex on June 13th, another scientist disagrees, you know, they kind of go back and forth this led him being convicted of rape, but there was not enough evidence to convict him of manslaughter. Not only that they knew somebody else was involved. So basically he got off, he was given it a light sentence of five years for rape. Because they knew he was legally insane at the time of the crime. Now. Once they said, once the five-year sentence was completed. He was to be sent to another psychiatric facility for an undetermined length of time. No less than three years. His defense continued to claim that evidence was suspicious, right? But but right, after the five-year sentence was given the public prostitute prosecution, screamed bullshit. They're like five years is not going to be okay with us. They immediately appealed the decision and demanded 14 years imprisonment, as they had done initially in the trial, and their appeal was successful, Yost AG stated in court. I'm Going Through Hell at the moment. I'm innocent and kind of out apologize and quote, the Court ruled that the public prosecution service was correct in their judgment, and he ended up being convicted of rape. Indian Slaughter. This time, his sentence was increased from 5 to 12, right? It with his post psychiatric treatment remaining the same. And the sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court in June of last year. So they oh wow. And last June Supreme Court was like, fuck
you, you guys know, don't appeal your sentence.
So to it. You're
just getting more or it's not going. To change stick with what you've got. Yeah, but yeah, you know Nicole had such a short life lived, just riding her bike to work and being attacked. Nobody could have predicted that horses.
Had a very short life and she was beautiful. Oh,
what a gorgeous, girl. Gorgeous. Of course language is German.
I apologize for all the twists. My didn't mean to mislead. You buy any.
So what is your theory? Tell me real
quick. You after everything I was They convinced Andy didn't do it.
Especially I mean, if you look through is timeline on Facebook, he's just very remembering of her posting birthday posts of her and stuff pictures.
You know, at obviously continued to stay with him and really bother him on a very deep level. I think he did it. I think he did it because it doesn't make sense the way he went about it. If his entire goal was to have her body exhumed and not flip it toward his dad
like maybe it was his dad because their DNA is so close. I'm sure of it. And yeah, you know, they said he did it and he figured he would go to jail because he probably couldn't convince. Vince them otherwise and Killed himself.
Could have been, I mean, and that's the thing. I mean, he was very gay. He loved the voice and you guys. Yeah, I mean, he know he just when you look at him and look through stuff somebody you totally could have been friends with, you know, it was like, happy birthday Madonna. Like, oh
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